OK, Socko

Oct. 6th, 2021 05:05 pm
nemorathwald: (Matt 4)
No matter how useful and beneficial something is, it can be done wrong. I'm not saying it's always bad. It's just done right some times and wrong other times. When we conceive of ourselves as belonging to the hero team and fighting the villains team in a superhero movie, it becomes impossible to conceive of any way that is doing it wrong. Hold that in mind.

If you bounce off of this blog post quickly, or if you assume bad faith, at the very least please read "The Stifling Air Of Rigid Radicalism", an excerpt from the book Joyful Militancy by two radicals. It's an excellent book.

For years, communities have had to deal with emotionally-reactive members who were there to antagonize other members. This was relatively easy when we were insisting to free-speech extremists on the right wing that we require much better emotional regulation from them. It's become harder now that it's disenfranchised demographics exhibiting much the same attitudes and personality disorders. (It's important to understand that almost no members of under-privileged groups indulge in this. But it only takes a few, for reasons I'll get into. And the majority of the time, it's someone else attempting to act on their behalf.)

If I had a time machine to go back in time a few years, and tell myself this story, past-me would have assumed I was hearing a dumb and emotionally-activated right-winger describe their paranoid delusional caricature of activists. So I get what you're probably thinking. If you're like me, you're skeptical. That's why I've waited so long to write this story. I don't know what else to tell you. The caricature is coming true, making it difficult to hold people together.

Part I.


Since 2016, many of the most active leaders of my local polyamory group in Detroit rebranded themselves Relationship Anarchists, and redefined "Polyamory" to mean every bad thing that anyone labeling themselves polyamorous had ever done to them. All the parts they approved of were defined as belonging, fully and only, within their re-branded term for themselves.

They became seized by extreme conviction. They began Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion meetups which I attended and found very interesting, although the events did not succeed in their goals.

The central tenet, repeatedly emphasized at their Relationship Anarchy meetups, was that their intimate relationships in the home were filtered through the lens of a zeal for identitarian justice in the world. In seeking to "de-colonize one's own mind", they redefined "the personal is political" to reduce the political to the merely psychological.

Selecting the right label for the group took on heightened significance-- since the desired purpose of their label was to provoke confrontation, they debated the various ways clueless newbie polyamorists, who they wanted to antagonize, might misinterpret various labels to sustain their privileged comfort. They started debating whether to reject the term Relationship Anarchist ("RA") in favor of the term "Political Relater". After the rebranding cycle repeated often enough, I said maybe finding the right label is not actually a solution for their dissatisfactions.

I attended their first annual convention, RAD (Relationship Anarchy Discussions). Attendees were required to be in general agreement with a list of resources provided by the unconference. The list was roughly 134 different Tumblr posts and manifestos that often contradicted each other. Many were not really "ideas"; years later I realized these were more like slam poetry. I tried to pick out a structure of justifications from this mess, to model in my mind what would qualify me in the minds of the founders. Which criteria was really being applied privately in the minds of the four people who approved attendance applications? I wanted to go to them and just ask. But they didn't have the energy to talk to people. Sometimes they called that energy "spoons". A process of back and forth discussion would have been really constructive to ensure I was not attending wrongly. Instead, there was a form. And in this form, they asked questions that omitted what I regarded as the most likely and relevant potential points of conflict between us. I wanted to just put my cards on the table, and prevent them from having a bad experience at the unconference itself. But they didn't have enough "emotional labor" for that.

The unconference paid two medical personnel to be there. The application process had made it clear that attendees were on notice to avoid any appearance of doctrinal impurity; and yet, the indomitable spirit of a community of ungovernable anarchists was apparently no substitute for marketable skills under capitalism, possessed by these two white men, who we were there to get paid. I did not ever hear this remarked upon.

The unconference was almost entirely wishful thinking. We got to hear from one person who was living out the Relationship Anarchist dream, in a remote commune for homosexuals with no electricity or plumbing, who had all fled the violence that had been committed against them in the wider world. We learned from him that everyone there was constantly suicidal, they barely could tolerate each other, and there were constant fights. The speaker had to be coaxed into speaking at all, and seemed miserable and expressed no interest in wanting any of us to suffer the same fate.

In the final session, I asked to discuss the criteria the organizers had used to determine who was in this room and who was not, and ask the group if it matched up with the overall will of the group, in case most of us were just silently compliant. But the organizers said they did not have enough energy for that. In retrospect, I should have said they are at liberty to leave the room, and the rest of the group was at liberty to discuss whatever we wish to discover the group's goals. Wouldn't that be an expression of the leaderlessness to which we supposedly aspired?

The organizers wrapped the walls with a large sheet of paper, and invited the group to write every problem in the world. (Except the power they were exercising in that room.) Then they laid the paper out and asked the group how to solve ... *gestures* ... all of this. But... without power. Anarchism is not supposed to take power. Somehow, if they changed the world, that would not count as power? And anyway, power is energy, and energy is spoons, and using their own spoons wouldn't be fair. Instead of ideas, they had a lot of feelings, and they made each other feel heard. Perhaps if they were mad enough, other people would change the world.

When you are responsible for everything, you are not held responsible for any specific thing in particular.

After the convention, they went on to abandon publicly-accessible meetups, to form what is effectively a queer separatism commune in one of the organizers' homes. They named it "The Compound". God, I sound delusional. There is no way to describe Qanon and their Woke edgelord counterparts without sounding like one is making up things to be mean. They even have a Patreon for The Compound.

The rest of us have been rebuilding the normal polyamory meetups over time.

Part II.


It was not long before I was invited to a Zoom call, with about a half-dozen people within the Relationship Anarchy group. They described having experienced power dynamics and status slaps. (The founders of the group were among the accused. They were invited, but were not present.) I asked if I could record the meeting and make an automated transcript, which I have put in my Roam Research graph.

The discussion brought to light a lot of power dynamics. You only belonged in the group if you turn most conversations of any importance into confrontation and shame. This was done with a smile, to create plausible deniability for the passive-aggression; look at their YouTube channel and decide for yourself. If confrontation is the point of the group, why be surprised when it breaks down in acrimony? After all, the only people remaining there to be educated are each other, right? This phenomenon is so common in activist spaces that it has a name: Picking Out The Villain Of The Day.

What I saw in the group was a constant need for ever-greater measures to prove to the group that which could never finally be settled, as if one owed a societal debt, but nothing one can do will ever reduce the balance on the debt.

My own comments in the meeting were not about subtle power; they mostly concerned explicit power, as it was expressed in the RAD (Relationship Anarchy Discussions) by who was allowed to attend the annual conference and what was allowed to be posted to the Facebook group. There was no transparency around that power, and I thought it should be guided by the actual will of the group rather than the group's four self-appointed leaders.

Moments before the meeting ended, it was revealed that the meeting had not been about the annual conference or the Facebook group. Bewildered, I expressed confusion about which organization this meeting was about. In conversations afterward, it was revealed that as anarchists, they did not value organization, most of them had already left RAD, and my redesigns to rules for the conference and Facebook group were inapplicable, and moot. I realized the organization had already dissolved, and the meeting was about buddies who hang out. I finally realized Relationship Anarchy Discussions had been intended more like a form of slam poetry or dream journals. I had mistaken it for ideas about having an effect on the world.

Part III.


We see emerging, a greater awareness of the important concept of intersectionality. With it, we have also seen the rise of a simplistic misunderstanding of intersectionality, as a way to perform multi-directional status slaps and power games. This dynamic is now playing out in houses of worship, classrooms, activity groups, conventions, discussion groups, local spinoffs of Burning Man, and anywhere else where new social norms lead inevitably to constant acrimony. When not kept in check, it leads most of these groups into a revolving door of constant splitting and collapse. In the past several years, most online social groups I am involved with have developed the following unsustainable and self-defeating norms:

  1. Redefine societal change on the world stage, to mean which buddies in the friends group get invited for parties or are shunned.
  2. "The personal is political" is misunderstood to mean that if you don't give your friends their way, especially in terms of their feelings, it is vaguely associated with the genocide of their identity group.
  3. Standpoint theory. If you are not a member of an underclass, you lack standing to speak about any statement about it, no matter how incoherent.
  4. If someone makes a demand, or makes it on behalf of a less-privileged person who is not making the demand, do not ask how the demand would lead to justice outcomes. If someone asks that question, take it as evidence of opposition to the cause, or insufficient zeal. This is a double-bind in which, either you admit you are incapable of perceiving reality for yourself and need someone to take over your choices, or, by rejecting the demand, you prove that you can't perceive reality yourself, and need someone to take over your choices.
  5. A feeling or expression of grief or outrage amounts to doing something about justice.
  6. Effect matters, but intent does not matter at all. Therefore, any person's finances, time, or health may take second-place to hurt feelings, by escalating one's own feelings of hurt to get one's way.
  7. Base your interpretation of your observations on your first emotional impulse. If you observe that someone disagrees with your interpretation-- especially your interpretation about them-- believe your first emotional impulse of suspicion. They must have sinister motives to undermine your ability to perceive reality, known as "gaslighting". (They can apply this to you in reverse. This accounts for mutual accusations of gaslighting.)
  8. The social group exists for one reason: to commisserate and offer support. That's the only thing anyone should be there for. "No advice, please." Therefore, offer unqualified support with no discernment. As a result, you believe the first person who gets up to a microphone. Your sympathies might reverse if you find out more later, but you get to feel good by holding space and making someone feel heard, and that's all that matters.
  9. Interpret "uncomfortable" as "unsafe". Safety from physical violence over-rules any other consideration, and the appropriate response to physical violence is to control others. Conflating comfort with safety means that anything you want over-rules anything another person wants.

Part IV.


Imagine if we could wave a magic wand, and get a trade-off. The magic wand would remove most congeniality and bonhomie from our own social spaces; conflicts get more intractable rather than less; it's predominated by pissing matches and personality disorders; and we burn out our organizers. Imagine that the same magic wand would eliminate redlining, job discrimination, police violence, environmentally unhealthy housing, and other worthy non-feelings objectives. Imagine also that the magic wand would raise the median income, median wealth, average lifespan, incarceration rates, home-ownership rates, and access to health care, of all marginalized people.

It would be a worthwhile trade-off, right? Certainly.

It does none of those things.

None of those important things are at stake in the argument in the online space. The only effect it can have is who likes who.

I want groups to reach some kind of equilibrium, even if it doesn't favor me, or actively works against me. But do you see such an equilibrium emerging? It's not. The social norms I listed above don't remove privileged people. They don't even reduce our power. Those norms just get exploited, leaving the marginalized people in the community even less coordinated in solidarity than they were before.

Part IV.


I wish the above story were the only one of its kind I could tell.

There are almost no members of under-privileged groups who get a power trip from dominance tactics. Mostly it's their self-appointed representatives. The few-- the very, very few-- who enjoy doing that have ever-increasing influence.

More and more of our communities give them approval to make any demand over any behavior for any reason, or no reason at all. Asking that such demand be justified with actual justice outcomes is a violation of a taboo which was never spelled out in the rules of the online group. Instead, one person has a "fight" response from "fight/flight/fawn", and someone else responds to that with a "fawn" response, and somehow that is considered justice, socially.

No matter how many advantages are unfairly given to me in courtrooms and hiring interview rooms, that's not the balance of power in the online conversation space. Filling the room you are in with demands for subordination and silence does nothing but encourage a very few cynical opportunists to show off how much power they can display. There is an inability by victims to recognize the power in the specific room they are in. It doesn't fit the narrative.

I have educated myself exhaustively for the better part of a decade on behavioral requests around micro-aggressions and which identities own which ideas and expressions. The views I read usually do not represent most of the people in the class they intend to help. For example, the vast majority of Black people, such as my neighbors here in Detroit, are far to the right of the average white leftist on race-related issues. Almost no Pacific Islanders call themselves "poly" and most of them don't identify with the term "Polynesia" which was invented by white people. But it doesn't matter. It became taboo to call one's self "poly", and fashionable to call one's self "polyam". It is nothing more than a way for a privileged people to show their compliance with shared social norms.

When you demand someone be quiet and listen, but after they have listened, it's clear what you say has no efficacy to make change in the world, they will be unconvinced. If they just decide to agree with you because you have standing to speak and they do not, even though they know perfectly well your behavioral request doesn't lead to progress, that's not an ally. You're demanding performativity. If you don't question yourself, and you demand no one else does either, don't be surprised when you're surrounded only with the performativity of compliance.

My years-long quest to educate myself led to Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion speakers and writers who use only emotionally-loaded language that's sparse on details. So I dug for the details, for years. What I eventually found was mystical Jungian-shadow bodywork. Conveniently for this "work", it is so abstract that it can never be held accountable to produce any justice outcomes.What is the actual "doing the work"? Not self-improvement evasions like "understanding", "sitting with", "holding space", "making others feel heard". If I make you feel heard, but nothing changes, that's just manipulating you. As Socko the sockpuppet said in Bo Burnham's Netflix special "Inside", one's own self-actualization doesn't change anything. OK, Socko, then what? Nothing. Socko has no solution. Eventually I had to admit it's because no one has a solution. And if those affected by the problems have no solution, and I search for years for a solution, eventually I have to admit you don't want your problems to stop. You want to feel heard. Remember? "No advice, please."

What Socko actually gets, instead of justice, is vocabulary, identity symbols, and empty symbolic gestures of belonging. We should recognize each other at the bottom of the same gladiator pit, but instead, we dig a hole in the bottom of the gladiator pit, and try to throw each other in, and feel-- for one small moment-- as though we are in the stands.
nemorathwald: (2017)
Polyamory-related blogs and online discussion groups are reposting the following paragraph:

Hey, can any polyamory blogs with a follower count please inform the palagi portion of the community that “poly” is a Polynesian community identifier, and is important to our safe spaces.

Using “polyamory” is cool just like using “polygender” and “Polyromantic” and or Polysexual” is cool. But the abbreviation “poly” is already in use.
 
"Palagi" means "foreigner". It is a word specific to Tonga/Samoa, not all of the Pacific Islands.

The post is from a Tumblr blog, "actuallypoly", which is now replaced with advertisements for sneakers. But the Wayback Machine has an archive of the page as it existed in 2015.

Farther down the page, one of the rebloggers immediately points out "Polynesian" is colonialist. A word invented by white people.

Almost all discussions in online polyamory spaces seem to have taken the following two approaches:

#1) White people getting defensive, or shaking their fists in defiance, toward other white people who are reblogging a claim about what non-white people want.

#2) White people capitulating to the approval of other white people, about what they claim non-white people want.

You can tell a lot about what someone's goal was, by paying attention to when they stop. For example, if your goal was to please your local polyamory community, but you don't care what Polynesians want, you are now done.

Then there is approach #3. So far, I only saw it happen once.

#3) White people expressing curiosity to other white people.

As it so happens, I have a surplus of spoons to spend on a few Google searches. I would like to reward curiosity as an alternative to defensiveness and one-upmanship. The problem arose from being out of touch with Polynesians, right? So I tried to find where these online safe spaces are, which the Tumblr post referred to.

All but two of the first page of search results for "poly polynesian" are debates between polyamorists. We have already colonized the searchability of this word. Apparently, the indigenous conversation which we were trying not to talk over is quieter than our conversation about quieting our own voices.

A search for the full term "polynesian", followed by the term "online communities" in quotes, reveals page after page of results that are not online communities for Polynesians, but included several other relevant items.

Here is a paper, "I define my own identity, Pacific articulations of ‘race’ and ‘culture’ on the internet", by Marianne I. Franklin of University of Amsterdam,The Netherlands, 2003.

The paper quotes comments from participants in Pacific Island-related forums in 2003. Quotes on pages 21, 27, 30, 31, 34, 40, 67 of the PDF use the abbreviation "poly". Some arguments are among self-described "Polynesians" defending the term as one they have reclaimed, and others arguing the term is a colonialist category, lumping together two recognizably different culture groups of the east and west islands.

The paper points to two online communities that existed when it was written in 2003. I visited them.

The latest 50 posts to the Facebook group "Kava Bowl Forum" were posted in 2018, not 2003. They contain no mention of "poly", the word "Polynesian", or identity concerns. What they talk about is an economic system rigged to exploit and disadvantage them.

Another thing revealed in the search was this Tumblr post. Someone from Hawaii chimed in to say the following. I will give them the last word.

"All right, so my family has never used the word Poly. We refer to ourselves by our cultures (Hawaiian, Samoan, etc…) however, this is just us personally. There are Polynesians who refer to themselves as Poly.

http://actuallypoly.tumblr.com/post/120001313953/the-abbreviation-poly-is-already-in-use

Here is a post from ActuallyPoly. It seems that the main issue is online use. They cannot tell who is Polynesian and who is not based on blog descriptions. The bigger issue is tagging, where those who are uncomfortable with polyamorous posts end up seeing them while searching things regarding their culture. Though they are mainly pointing out issues with online use, it does seem that they want a new term formed for conversational use as well. Unfortunately, at this point, I don’t think it will happen as polyamorous people have used the term poly for decades and now poly as referring to polyamory is more popular and understood by people than Poly is.

I think in conversation where there is a context, it’s fine. At this point, we realistically have to get used to sharing the term. The Greek word Poly does mean “many” and if it’s contextual we will know what you mean. If people make crude jokes about Poly people being poly, first off, stop that shit in its tracks cause there is nothing crude about polyamory, and second they are being little shits for willfully conflating a racial identifier with something they view as crude instead of asking for clarification, so cut them from your life."
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If your relationship style is adventurous, you're journeying down a road less traveled, with only vague maps. There's nothing wrong with spending your life in a hobbit hole, playing it safe, and doing what everyone has always done. But my friend, when you're an explorer, trying to reach as far as you can into the extents of what you and your partners can enjoy-- then... then. You're up in the high country.

Think of it this way. You and your partners (when you have partners) are in an adventuring party, climbing a mountain while tied to each other with ropes. Everybody has emotional needs and falls off the mountainside (anxiety, depression, reflexively feeling guilt for no reason). It happens to some more than others, but it happens to all of us. The rest of the party uses the ropes to pull them back up.

When they fall, your job is to pull. But here's the thing. When you're the one dangling from the end of the rope, your job is to try to get back on the mountain side. At least co-operate with your lovers' attempt to pull you up. Your lovers and metamours are not your therapists. They are there to achieve something together, not to be pulled down with you into the abyss. They chose you because you'll quest with them.

So here you are in this situation. You meet a person climbing alongside you, who seems like a good potential partner, the "PP". This person offers to clip a carabiner to yours, to connect to your rope chain.

So naturally you look at the other person who you would be connected to-- the potential metamour ("PM"). Let's say the PM wants to climb down to the foot of the mountain and stay in the hobbit hole in the base camp. (Did I mention there's nothing wrong with that?)

But the PM doesn't want to be in an adventuring party, or climb the mountain. PP is dragging PM along by the rope. Instead of climbing, PM is glaring stubbornly, with arms crossed, swinging from the end of the rope, deliberately stuck in an emotional freefall to punish PP. PP is doing all the work, and PM is pure liability. It turns out PP pressured PM into going on this adventure, and now PM is going to sabotage it.

If PM wants to go downward, PM can join the nearly-infinite number of people going that way. But PP has to choose. Go downward with PM, or upward with you? It can't be both.

You're responsible for your partners' emotional safety. Are you prepared to be responsible for the emotional safety of their partners? The bottom line is, don't let anyone clip a rope to you unless they un-clip from the non-climber. No reluctant polyamorists allowed. Do not get involved with someone who is pressuring their other partner to go along with it.

Reach out a hand when PP falters and slips. Keep pace and offer encouragement and tools. Just keep it clear to the PP that you're going upward, with or without them. No tug-of-war is allowed. If you're going to climb, your entire rope chain must be trying to go up. They can fall, but they must demonstrate that they're trying. The rule is "climbers only".

You cannot "motivate" someone to climb who never wanted to. The more you try, the closer you get to coercion and violations of consent.

When selecting a partner, there are very few things more important than a shared direction for the relationship itself. It doesn't need to be identical, but it must be reasonably similar. Most things can be compromised, but not goals for the relationship itself. If you are on incompatible paths, there is no compromise other than mutual failure.

First, find someone who will climb with you. Love is second. When you find love going in the opposite direction, never ask love to sacrifice it's journey of love, to go in your direction. Neither should you destroy the path that works for you to go on a path that's false for you. You'll only destroy both of your journeys. Exercise restraint, walk away, and find love going where you're going.
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I have said goodbye to all my relationships in recent months, as they start new lives with exciting new careers thousands of miles away. Relationships are an area of life in which I'm pretty satisfied with my results. While it is particularly on my mind, I thought I'd just put down some thoughts. These are the philosophies to which I credit my lack of drama and turmoil.

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A poster in Ops at U-Con advertised seeking geeks to be interviewed, for an honors thesis about geek culture. So I emailed Rachel Yung at and signed up. If you self-identify as a geek, Rachel wishes you to do likewise. Here is a transcript of the interview.
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Read more... )Your genetic code is not your friend. It created you; but only as its uncaring tool to gain at your expense. Genes express themselves in subtle influences on our desires. We don't always follow our feelings and urges because we're reasoning creatures, but those feelings and urges come from genes. What you need to realize is that your genetic code is completely selfish and would happily ruin your life in order to propagate. Men and women shouldn't be ashamed of how they're influenced by the genetic code trying to hijack their lives. For instance, a man's wanderlust and a woman's damn nesting instinct. It's just inconvenient that what's good for the genetic code is sometimes different from what's good for us, so our choices usually are an uphill fight against feelings, and this frustrates me. That which generates interest and infatuation, or which triggers biological clocks, contradicts what our rational minds would tell us, if we allow our minds to question our animal instinct. If you refuse to question the truth claims of your basic drives, you are royally screwed, because they will contradict each other. Nature has not been good to the human race in this respect. Thanks for creating us, Mother Nature, now would you please stop trying to run our adult lives for your own blind gain?Read more... )
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In my discussions of marriage law (which are frequent) it amazes me to hear gays tell me how conservative they are. You want to hear an irony? Socially, gay-marriage advocates tend to be conservatives who are romanticizing the stone age.Read more... )we should not allow the state to acknowledge ANY relationships with the special designation of "legal marriage," meaning "this relationship is acceptable to the State but that one is not." Instead they should all be "civil unions" in the eyes of the state, and whether or not you're "married" depends entirely on what your church/synagogue/coven says, if any. The state shouldn't even ask about that. In this I include Christian heterosexual weddings and their "gay-inclusive" update.Read more... )

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