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I want to be a good citizen. I also don't want to be taken advantage of in the service of foolish and harmful causes. It's pretty overwhelming to figure out how to get both of those, but I've been posting on this blog from time to time to work through it. This post will illustrate where I think the problem lies, and one out of several solutions that might mitigate it. Don't think this is a post of pessimism or despair; if that were the case, I wouldn't bother posting this. I think it's solvable and I'm going to discuss a proposed solution. The thing is, before you can fix a problem, you've got to acknowledge it.

I thought Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. I still cannot account for the fact that they didn't. But wait a minute! Am I supposed to have an opinion on the war based on that question of expert fact? The civic arena in which we participate relies on increasingly complicated truth claims. Maybe one reason Americans are so unmotivated to get involved in politics is because it goes like this:

Step One. I start from a set of values. Everybody's got values. This is easy. I could define for you what I consider to be metrics of success that matter to me as goals, intrinsically worthy in and of themselves. I think something is being neglected, or we stand to lose it, and I want to keep it. Let's say I want to lower crime.

Step Two. I'm expected to pick a policy that I think will achieve lower crime. My favored policy, let's say it's gun control, is likely to be wrong-headed and not successfully achieve a lower crime rate, because I'm not an expert specialist, and the information environment rewards deception by powerful interests.

Step Three. I'm expected to pick a politician to enact gun control (the policy that I suspect I am probably wrong about). I don't even know if a given politician will keep her promise to enact it.

Step Four. When I have picked a politician (the one who, remember, I don't know whether she will enact gun control, which may or may not lower the crime rate), I don't know if she is "electable". So I'm expected to vote for some other politician, who doesn't even want to enact gun control, just because she might make the political climate easier for somebody to enact it someday. In order to get closer to that she's cut a compromise deal, to go along with a policy from the NRA which she doesn't even believe in.

At this point it looks for all the world like nothing more than a grab for empty power by a political party. Power for its own sake, devoid of the values that I started with. It seems to me our attention as good citizens would be better spent on stepping back and solving the system itself, and on winning the hearts and minds of our friends one person at a time.

To sum up my thoughts on the matter: If you can't tell what's true, and there's no one with credibility, the main problem to solve is
A. the difficulty in establishing actual facts, and
B. a political system that is rewarded for acting out of accordance with facts.
Until this is solved, solutions can seldom be judged, much less implemented.

Did you know that Professor Lawrence Lessig, of the Creative Commons, a public figure in the forefront of the fight for digital civil liberties, announced he would stop his work on those issues in order to spend all his time fighting government corruption? He says until that is solved, other problems he has been working on will not be solved. I was reading his book "Code and Other Laws of Cyberspace", and listening to an interview on The Command Line Podcast in which he discussed this switch in his life's work, on the day I attended the Digital Citizenship Symposium.

As a follow-up to the post about that Symposium, I'd like to introduce a thought-provoking idea about a potential institution to mitigate the credibility crisis. I first heard about this in K. Eric Drexler's book about nanotech and the pitfalls of forecasting the future, Engines of Creation. I strongly recommend you read Chapter 13. It's called Prediction Markets, and its political extension is Futarchy. "Vote on values, bet on beliefs."

As I said in my post last year about climate change, :
Every scientist quoted in the debate appears to be cowed and censored with funding at risk, a mis-quoted and edited sock puppet on the hand of industries seeking exploitative profit, or of regulatory government seeking election to pass the rest of their platform. Scientific testimony appears to proliferate to discredit opposing scientific testimony on this topic, accusing it of being fatally compromised by a political faction that desires to use it to justify an economic system. That discrediting evidence is then, itself, discredited in what may turn out to be an endless cycle.
Politics is not about truth, it's about getting things to be the way you want them to be. It's like a corrosive acid on the good and decent people who choose it for a career. When a seasoned and successful politician results from that starry-eyed youngster, it is no longer that idealistic person; it has become an image marketed by careful handlers behind the throne like Karl Rove or James Carville, sweet-talked by corrupt lobbyists who protect all that wealth and power at stake. The ones who stay idealistic and don't compromise are the ones whose brief and failed careers you never hear about. It seems to require playing fast and loose with the truth in order to accomplish something that one hopes will be, on balance, good. One is swept into a machine of compromise in the hope that the ends justify the means.

You know that the issue I think about the most is this: how to tell what is true. An individual can't possibly study everything in the world, and has to trust the credibility of experts. When we can't trust our institutions, it's a disaster. Where can a lay person turn for scientific answers that are free of activism? Why are there no Science Courts or Idea Futures Markets?
Futures Prediction Markets are like Orange Juice Futures and other financial markets, except the express purpose is forecasting the measurable outcomes of policy. When a public figure gets up and claims global warming isn't happening, imagine if you could tell them to put their money where their mouths are. Markets have been established as extremely good at getting at complicated truths. Imagine thousands of people who research public policy outcomes, are financially rewarded to come to accurate conclusions about matters of measurable fact. For losing a bet, politically-motivated phonies would be financially punished rather than conveniently forgotten.

At the Symposium, I heard a lot of the questioners in the audience wondering how to get us more engaged. Today's citizens feel disenchanted with the political process. I think it's because, while policy is about values and facts, everybody's got values but it's far more difficult to get facts. Instead we resort to philosophical screeds that are devoid of observation of the world around us. Mark Rosenfelder describes this in the section "Who Needs Facts?" in his essay "What's Wrong With Libertarianism?" I first read that essay years ago. When I started, I was libertarian. When I finished, I was not; but I wanted to revamp government far more radically.

The plain fact is, designing public policy is difficult under the best conditions. Digging past the deceptions coming at us from all sides is even harder. Frankly, most citizens have got a full time job already and don't need a second one. Especially not one that we're bad at.

Date: 2008-01-03 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drkelso.livejournal.com
It's already been interesting to see how some of the online gambling sites have been calling the Presidential primaries that are imminently upon us. I was just reading on one of the political boards where prediction markets tend to be more accurate than general polling because of the fact that people have to put their money where their mouths are.

I'm a bit curious to see which way you are leaning when it comes to the current presidential election. Especially since any vote for the Democrats in Michigan is a moot point since the DNC decided not to let there be any delegates from Michigan because they moved the date of the primary.

Not that I would have assumed you would vote for a Democrat, but that basically leaves the pool of Republicans for which you could have any influence over.

And seeing how you have libertarian leanings, what you thought of Ron Paul even though he is an obvious Christian candidate but probably the least likely to push his beliefs on the nation. And how does the statement "The ones who stay idealistic and don't compromise are the ones whose brief and failed careers you never hear about" apply to Ron Paul? I would have to contend that he is a shining exception to that. Although probably the only one, which would make that statement mostly true.

So would you vote or would you skip it and wait to see if there is a better third-party candidate later?

Good post.

Date: 2008-01-03 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matt-arnold.livejournal.com
I don't actually know what Ron Paul's stance is on anything. If I wait until I see what choice I am going to be presented with, I probably won't have to.

Date: 2008-01-03 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drkelso.livejournal.com
I can help you with that. :)

* http://www.RonPaul2008.com - Campaign website
* http://www.ronpaullibrary.org - Over 1,000 articles from his last 30 years in Congress. HIGHLY recommend reading this website.
* http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=RonPaul2008dotcom - YouTube channel.

Anyway, the Iowa Caucus is tomorrow night and there is a good chance Ron Paul will place third which positions him strongly against Romney and Huckabee who are the two religious candidates that WILL push their beliefs on us. Huckabee used to be a Southern Baptist minister. Think PCC. Not good, and I'm saying this as a preacher's kid. You know what I mean.

Ron Paul actually ran for president under the Libertarian ticket in 1988 if that tells you anything. Otherwise he has been a Republican since the 70's in Congress and has that very long record to prove he does what he will say.

Anyway, Michigan votes before Super Tuesday (Feb 5th) so you're up pretty soon now. It's a good chance to put some sanity into our executive branch. and only the Republican delegates count for your state. Go figure.

Date: 2008-01-03 05:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matt-arnold.livejournal.com
According to this poll, Kucinich is the candidate who best represents my own unique blend of short-sightedness and self-interest. What's yours? :)

Can you tell I've spent all evening reading the back archives of somethingpositive.net?

Date: 2008-01-03 07:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drkelso.livejournal.com
Ron Paul - 88%
Bill Richardson - 69%
Fred Thompson - 66%

Date: 2008-01-05 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelann1977.livejournal.com
Me too! That settles it, I'm voting for Kucinich. After checking out his web site, I actually think he's the best candidate. Will the rest of America, let alone Michigan, think so? Not a snowball's chance in hell. But there's no way you can get me to vote for Hilary. Her foreign policy looks to be more of the same, and that's the LAST thing we need right now.

Date: 2008-01-03 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tlatoani.livejournal.com
And seeing how you have libertarian leanings, what you thought of Ron Paul even though he is an obvious Christian candidate but probably the least likely to push his beliefs on the nation.

You mean the guy who's already tried to introduce a Federal law stating that life begins at conception? Like hell he won't try to force his beliefs on the nation -- he's already tried once!

Date: 2008-01-03 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zifferent.livejournal.com
I can't remember where I found it, but it doesn't make it any less true.

It was that all the Republican candidates are Fascists of one type or another. Look again it's all true.

Ron Paul just happens to be a Libertarian Fascist. Which doesn't make any sense at all. Basically we wants to oppress people and take away our freedom and privacy. And get the money to pay the police-state how exactly? Maybe, it's more of the traditional corporatist type fascism.

Date: 2008-01-03 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drkelso.livejournal.com
I don't follow. He wants to restore our privacy and rights that Bush took away. And save a ton of money in the process.

Date: 2008-01-03 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zifferent.livejournal.com
Okay, I'll admit it. Either they (the original posters) and I forgot about Ron Paul when stating and further restating that statement, or were ignorant about it.

For me I was just ignorant. I still don't support him, for other reasons.

Sorry about that. The previous statement was unfair.

Date: 2008-01-03 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drkelso.livejournal.com
His abortion issue is probably the one issue where I could see a major disagreement with the traditional libertarian platform. I don't see Ron Paul matching up 100%. Probably more like 75-80%. However, if you want to be technical, he is pushing for the abortion thing to be a state's rights issue instead of a federal issue. So technically it is a libertarian position even though it doesn't seem favorable to many people.

But in reality? It is what it is now and to be honest, the chance of it changing are very very unlikely. So basically, I see it as much less of an issue from far more important things like economy, our stupid wars, our currently flawed foreign policy, and the dangerous progression in loss of privacy and personal freedom thanks to King Bush.

So I support Ron Paul strongly because he will definitely work to reverse the crap that Bush has pushed on us. And his record proves it.

So he may not be perfect, but he is more perfect than the rest in my opinion.

Date: 2008-01-03 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atropis.livejournal.com
in vaguely related news, sometimes i hear about someone's official terrorist-info betting pool. accurate predictions of activity won cash prizes, or something like that. luciferian knows more than i, but if you want, could probably ask him what the name of that thing was for research purposes. oh yeah, and it didn't keep going long term because people were squicked out by the social implications. as i understand what was explained to me about it, anyway.

Date: 2008-01-03 08:48 pm (UTC)

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